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Watch: DeLong Flip-Flops on Climate Change

He told a Rossmoor group, according to his own YouTube, 'I don't see any scientific evidence...that that is occurring.' On Wednesday, he contradicts that in what Register blogger calls 'stupid candidate tricks.'

The second YouTube video capturing 47th Congressional district candidate Gary DeLong in a less than desireable political position--defense--has now entered a heated and nationally watched race for the Long Beach-Orange County seat.

DeLong, a Republican and a Long Beach City Councilman, on Sunday told a Rossmoor residents group that while he has not taken a formal position on whether climate change is real, "I don't see any scientific evidence ... that that is occuring."

On Wednesday, a day after the video was flagged to the media by his opponent, Democratic State Senator Alan Lowenthal, DeLong's campaign spokeksman released a statement. Short version: he does believe in man-made causes for climate change. 

Until Wednesday, you could watch the video on DeLong's website, pertinent section being at 10:20. It has since been made private. But yoy can still see it attached here.

You can watch the video sent by the Lowenthal campaign, which has better sound quality and is edited to the precise comment.

At the residents forum Sunday in Rossmoor--based on the video of it on DeLong's campaign site, which has now been taken down--DeLong was asked by an audience member whether he believed climate change was real and if so, what the government should be doing about it.

At first, he says it is questionable, he does not have all the answers, but steers the rest of his anwer at opposing implied government regulation on "the private sector." Pressed for his position, he goes on to say he neither has a position nor believes science backs the widely held scientific community's position that it does--widely challenged by so-called "deniers.'

Wednesday afternoon, DeLong's campaign finally responded with his statement, no mention of his prior one contradicting it Sunday:

"The environment is society's most vital resource. There is no question that human behavior impacts the environment. Further, climate change is influenced by man and by natural conditions." 

Lowenthal's campaign was quick to jump on what it dubbed DeLong denying scientific evidence that it claimed would be contrary to the position of big industry such as the U.S. Chamber of Commerce that has financed an anti-Lowenthal attack ad.

Of the video's no science while not taking a position, Lowenthal campaign consultant Mike Shimpock said:

"That's like saying the sky is blue, but I'm not taking a position on it. Abortion is murder, but I'm not taking a position on it. Evolution is just a theory, but I'm not taking a position on it," he responded to DeLong's Wednesday e-mail statement."

Orange County Register political blogger Greg Diamond had a field day with the flip-flop, headlining the item, "Stupid Candidate Tricks: Gary DeLong Denies Science of Climate Change.'

DeLong needs Republican voters to turn out at the polls in the Western Orange County cities of the 47th District, including Rossmoor and Los Alamitos, because Democratic registration outnumbers Republican. In an election where both parties are fighting a ground war for every seat, casting candidates as bipartisan moderates is the strategy for winning undecided and Independent voters. This and several other California races are being flooded with national party money and interests.

Blogger Diamond blogged:

"This guy wants to be a legislator, sent from an educated and scientifically advanced state, of the most powerful country in the world .... For those of you who are keeping track, this means that this one below is now only the second-most embarrassing Gary DeLong video of the year."

The first was taken a few weeks ago at a Friday night candidate forum at Cal State Long Beach's Pyramid and captured a physical scuffle over a Democratic Party video tracker's cell phone camera, followed by a 10-minute protracted confrontaton in which DeLong gives the phone to the League of Women Voters, then his campaign manager and other workers or staffers try to block her view of the candidate. DeLong has defended his behavior and called the tracker, common to campaigns and something Lowenthal has noted at his events, a "stalker."

John B. Greet November 01, 2012 at 04:47 AM
Thanks very much, Ruehle for *finally* acknowledging (albeit unintentionally) that there are not, in fact, "68 businesses in Belmont Shore that have alcohol licenses." Wouldn't it have simply been easier to have told the truth to begin with? Have you found that proof that I ever blogged "continuously while on the job from (my) Long Beach Police provided computer"? No? How about that proof that I have ever claimed that "DeLong had nothing to do with the unpermitted bulldozing destruction of the Los Cerritos Wetlands"? No? How about that proof that I ever "parrot(ed) public statements by DeLong claiming he did NOT have ties to developer Tom Dean before DeLong pushed through the exchange of taxpayer owned $18 million port property for Dean's swamp land"? No? How about proof that the officers who tragically and mistakenly killed Doug Zerby committed "murder", as you accused many times? No? Proof that former Chief Batts was involved in "multiple domestic violence incidents? No? Proof the Kurt Schneiter owns or operates medpot clinics or that he had used influence with City Hall to secure medpot collective licenses and to close down competitor collectives in the city? No? I guess I'll have to keep hoping you present proof of all of those accusations you have made, and so many others that you have also failed to prove. But, hey, at least we finally got the truth out about the number of Shore businesses with liquor licenses. Thanks!
Mike Ruehle November 01, 2012 at 07:43 AM
An appropriate response from John Bradley Greet might have been to thank me for my time and energy taken to educate him about his misconception. But not Greet. Why do I bother responding to someone soooooo disrespectful?
John B. Greet November 01, 2012 at 02:38 PM
Guess he missed the part where I said: "Thanks very much, Ruehle..." That's ok, I missed the part where he put on his big boy pants and openly admitted that his original comment that there were "68 businesses in Belmont Shore that have alcohol licenses" was completely false, even while going to the trouble to actually *list* the *59* he was able to find. Ruehle could be so much more convincing and persuasive if he would just let the *facts* speak for themselves and not constantly try to misstate, embellish, or otherwise twist them to his advantage.
Marshall Riverdale November 01, 2012 at 05:00 PM
Unlawful detainer actions are public records (ie, they can be viewed in any legal database like Westlaw, Lexis, or at any courthouse). To look it up in a legal database, you just search under the property address or DeLong's outsourced property management company's name (Centennial Properties). Although it is public record, I do not wish to publish names of the evicted on a discussion board. Gary's properties include: 1129 E. Ocean Blvd. 912 Gladys 3719 E. 1st St. 1518 E. 3rd St. 2826 E. 4th St. 5219 E. Ocean Blvd. 2103 E. 6th St. I am unsure if this is comprehensive - there may be more properties. So, yes, I guess Gary does know how to create jobs: process servers that have to come notify/evict tenants. If ANYONE HERE can come up with any other "jobs" that Gary DeLong has created I'd love to hear about it. I can only cite instances where he has squandered the possibility of creating jobs in his district as Councilman. I think it's high time somebody makes him substantiate this claim that he states over and over and over again.
Panglonymous November 01, 2012 at 05:53 PM
I guess you could say that by outsourcing the management of his rental properties he may have caused some modest hiring at the property management firm (Centennial Properties.) Probably not significant enough to trumpet oneself as a legitimate job creator, though. And I'm sure we're all open to hearing about any we may have missed!
Panglonymous November 01, 2012 at 06:00 PM
Monsieur Gary DeLong this morning announced that he will be instituting a 20% across-the-board rent reduction for all tenants housed in his eleven apartment buildings (valued at minimum $1M each as recently as December 2010.) http://belmontshore.patch.com/articles/delong-bids-for-new-congressional-seat#comment_1257392 Questioned by a higher power, Mr. Delong responded, "I feel it's the least I can do to assist hard working families during a time of economic stress. I have benefited enormously from rental rate inflation since the turn of the millennium. Rents flattened temporarily during the housing bust but never declined, and as families forced from their homes sought once more to rent, demand increased and the rise in rental rates resumed." "I cannot, in good conscience, profit from the hardships and suffering of my fellow citizens, those I hope to call my future constituents," said Monsieur DeLong. "I can only hope my rent-seeking peers will follow my modest example to the benefit of all good families of the new 47th Congressional District." "Each and every one of us can do more." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-dTnU5uOsA
Mike Ruehle November 01, 2012 at 06:16 PM
It appears to me a political tracker SHOULD be following DeLong's campaign to document his multiple flip-flops on key issues in attempts to pander to voter groups. How else is the public supposed to know DeLong really doesn't have a position on key issues and will say what he thinks will get him elected, rather than tip his hat towards what his actions might be if elected.
John B. Greet November 01, 2012 at 06:38 PM
"How else is the public supposed to know DeLong really doesn't have a position on key issues..." Again, sadly, Ruehle apparently feels the need to comment falsely. All any person truly interested in the truth on this issue -rather than Ruehle's deception- needs do is visit DeLong's campaign website to see that he has, indeed, taken positions on ten key issues, and these are only his stated priorities, which would indicate he has positions on other key issues as well. http://www.garydelong.com/priorities/ Disliking or disagreeing with DeLong's positions on key issues would be a valid avenue of critique. Lying, however, and claiming that "DeLong really doesn't have a position on key issues" is simply false.
Mike Ruehle November 01, 2012 at 06:49 PM
Glad you brought up Mr. Flip-floppers website. DeLong's website claims he supports SB 1243. http://www.garydelong.com/2012/02/29/what-do-repub-cong-candidates-gary-delong-steve-kuykendall-think-of/ Meanwhile, DeLong's mailers critisize Lowenthal for supporting AB 1243, calling it "special interest tax breaks." So what is it, does DeLong support or oppose AB 1243? It's anybody's guess.
John B. Greet November 01, 2012 at 06:55 PM
Nice deflection, Ruehle. Are you willing to put on your big boy pants for a minute and admit that your comment that: "...DeLong really doesn't have a position on key issues..." was utterly false?
Mike Ruehle November 03, 2012 at 06:39 PM
I find it interesting the Patch allows DeLong to blog without allowing the public to comment on his blogs. There is no comment section. http://belmontshore.patch.com/blog_posts/what-is-the-fiscal-cliff http://belmontshore.patch.com/blog_posts/the-state-of-californias-education Is this something DeLong wanted and Patch allowed so people would not point out DeLong's flip-flopping? If so, how does that differ from paid advertising? I notice that comments are allowed for Lowenthal's Patch blogs.
John B. Greet November 03, 2012 at 07:19 PM
In his typical anxiousness to impugn DeLong, Ruehle has failed to realize that Lowenthal's submissions are not "blogs" but, rather, little more than political advertisements. The Lowenthal campaign pays other local sites to run them, but the Patch apparently agrees to run them for free. This may also be true in DeLong's case, I really don't know.
Nancy Wride (Editor) November 03, 2012 at 07:47 PM
Gentlemen, Mike was correct that comments did not appear but they are back now. And John, you know full well that both DeLong and Lowenthal blog for free, as do you, and no one edits your anti-Lowenthal and anti-Liberal blogs or comments. Republican candidate Martha Flores Gibson blogs for free, as did primary candidates, far more Republicans than Democrats. Most commenters view all of the political blogs including yours as biased, as blogs are supposed to be. That is why we post them under Local Voices. Happy Saturday, and see you at ComicCon.
Watts November 03, 2012 at 08:13 PM
FYI, I still don't see comments sections on those two blogs. There is an icon to comment, but clicking on it simply reloads the page. The first one has a "comment" icon, with no box, and clicking on the icon simply reloads the page. The second link has no comment icon and no box for comments.
Nancy Wride (Editor) November 03, 2012 at 08:55 PM
I just left a comment, can you try again, Watts?
John B. Greet November 03, 2012 at 08:56 PM
"And John, you know full well that both DeLong and Lowenthal blog for free, as do you, and no one edits your anti-Lowenthal and anti-Liberal blogs or comments. Republican candidate Martha Flores Gibson blogs for free, as did primary candidates, far more Republicans than Democrats." Nancy, my comment was not intended as any sort of accusation. I think it is to your *credit* that you run commentary from politicians for free here. This helps to insure equal access. Which I think is very important and which is something that other sites (which apparently charge) cannot claim, since campaigns not interested in paying them don't get their comments out. I sincerely apologize that you took my comment as some sort of an accusation. It was intended as praise. Have a fine weekend!
Nancy Wride (Editor) November 03, 2012 at 09:17 PM
JohnG, I am just catching up with some of these comments as the election final turn is here. I noticed that you focused on the "DeLong has no positions" point,but did you have any comment on the specific position supporting the SB marine fuel sales tax while sending anti=Lowenthal mailers criticizing it?
John B. Greet November 03, 2012 at 09:30 PM
I think extending the bunker fuel tax break was a good thing and has helped us be more competitive. I believe it should be permanent. I have not seen the DeLong mailer in question. What, precisely, was DeLong criticizing Lowenthal about?
Mike Ruehle November 03, 2012 at 11:54 PM
The following is the comment Greet CLAIMS to have "intended as praise," "In his typical anxiousness to impugn DeLong, Ruehle has failed to realize that Lowenthal's submissions are not "blogs" but, rather, little more than political advertisements. The Lowenthal campaign pays other local sites to run them, but the Patch apparently agrees to run them for free." Maybe I'm blind and someone else can point out which one of the following phrases is "intended" as praise. "typical anxiousness to impugn" "Ruehle has failed to realize" "little more than political advertisements" "Patch apparently agrees to run them for free"
Mike Ruehle November 03, 2012 at 11:56 PM
ANOTHER DELONG FLIP-FLOP. DeLong sent out anti-Lowenthal mailers over the weekend critisizing Lowenthal for introducing and passing SB 1243, a bill that encourages large ships to utilize the Port of Long Beach by exempting them form having to pay California sales tax on marine fuel. DeLong's mailer accuses SB 1243 of giving special interest tax breaks. In particular, "Alan Lowenthal rewarded Maersk by introducing SB 1243, a bill that favors ships using dirty bunker fuel - one of the highest sources of pollution in the Port of Long Beach." Furthermore, "This bill would exempt large ships from paying California sales tax on their fuel at the same time California residents are being asked to raise their own taxes." Meanwhile, DeLong conveniently forgets to mention he is on public record in support of AB 1243. In fact, DeLong sent an email to LBReport.com saying "I support exempting sales tax on marine fuel." http://www.lbreport.com/news/feb12/bunkbil2.htm
Nancy Wride (Editor) November 04, 2012 at 12:02 AM
Mike R, can you tell us about the marine fuel sales tax mailer, I just went through 15 mailers that landed Friday and someone here recycled the priors. But it is almost unbearable to read these fliers. In that context, I think my favorite was the one that said, "'Alan Lowenthal Hates Kittens" in a bubble spoken by the 50s comic strip woman. But I again wish there was a rule that allowed candidates to only speak of their own record. In my dreams, I knowl....
John B. Greet November 04, 2012 at 12:35 AM
Well, Nancy, based solely upon what Ruehle has posted (which, given his track record of fraudulent commentary, I am *extremely* reluctant to rely upon) the only thing I see that DeLong might have trouble proving is the part about "rewarding Maersk." Everything else is a matter of public record as far as I know. Are we going to condemn DeLong for misleading political mailers? If so, and if we truly want to be fair about it, then I think we need to paint Lowenthal with that same brush as well. No?
Watts November 04, 2012 at 02:59 AM
The second link (fiscal cliff), now has comments. The first link (California's education), still has no comment icon nor comment box.
Watts November 04, 2012 at 03:11 AM
Feel free, when the article is about Lowenthal and you have specific instances that you are certain about, that you can mention. This article is about DeLong's flip flopping being caught on video, so the comments have been about DeLong. We all know that you want to railroad every negative comment about Delong, by bringing up the mayor or other council-members or Lowenthal and I am sure that I am not the only one who half expected you to try and divert the DeLong criticism by bringing up the Great Pumpkin, over Halloween. The reality is, this thread is about Delong and your persistant attempts to always try to divert the blame to anybody else, from other council members to the man on the moon, is transparent and rather pathetic. So if you have beefs with the rest of the councilmembers, the mayor or any other official or department, the best thing for you to do is write about it. If you have a beef with Lowenthal (which we all know that you do), then just go on over to a Lowenthal article and jump up and down about how life isn't fair, because your candidate is loosing and nobody has the clarity of vision that you believe that you have.
Watts November 04, 2012 at 03:14 AM
Oh, or how could I have forgotten that one post blaming the moderator for how he asked the question. My God, how do you keep coming up with all these excuses for Delong? It seems like you have a bottomless bag of tricks.
John B. Greet November 04, 2012 at 04:18 AM
heheheh....sigh Watts, Watts....ever the extraneous extrapolator. Always carrying things to the most unreasonable extremes. "Great Pumpkin"....very cute. And still trying to play the "instructor" as well, it seems. Since this article mentions Lowenthal, Lowenthal is appropriate to mention in comments appended to it and while I may have been the first to mention Lowenthal, I certainly have not been the only one to do so. A bit of an inconvenient truth for you there, ay? For the record, DeLong should be held answerable to the facts of his record, just as Lowenthal and any other elected official should. Where I tend to object, however, is when folks seem to persist in holding DeLong accountable for things he did not say. For instance, as the full video clearly demonstrates, DeLong never once denied the existence of global warming or global climate change. Not once. And yet this is the false narrative that the Lowenthal campaign and the Cal. Dem. Party have been feeding anyone willing to have it spoon fed to them. That, Watts, is a specific and pertinent fact related to this article: DeLong never once denied global warming/climate change and, so, his statement later that "(t)here is no question that human behavior impacts the environment. Further, climate change is influenced by man and by natural conditions" does not, in turn, constitute a "flip flop" as the title of this article suggests. Many people have clarity and vision that exceed mine. Just not you. ; )
Watts November 04, 2012 at 05:17 PM
"For instance, as the full video clearly demonstrates, DeLong never once denied the existence of global warming or global climate change. And yet this is the false narrative that the Lowenthal campaign and the Cal. Dem. Party have been feeding anyone willing to have it spoon fed to them." Either A) you know that this is a lie and you are saying this to again cloud the issue or B) your reading comprehension is far worse than I could have ever imagined. The flip flop is not on if he believes in global climate change, the flip flop was on if he believed in manmade climate change and that is where he did the flip flop. And this is the last attempt to try to help you understand this simply concept, because you seem to be the only person who still doesn't understand it. Either that or you are simply playing dumb about it.
John B. Greet November 04, 2012 at 06:52 PM
Or C: Watts has not fully comprehended either the totality of DeLong's comments on this issue or the totality of the false accusations lodged against DeLong on this issue and, rather than better educate *himself*, he instead assumes the role of "instuctor" and presumes to attempt to educate others on matters he, himself, either does not or cannot fully comprehend. Either way Watts remains wrong on this issue. He is never going to admit this, however, because he has openly admitted that in discussions of this sort he sees himself as the instructor, and others mere students in his classroom. It seems that Watts may need some more schooling of his own...in humility.
Mike Ruehle November 04, 2012 at 08:22 PM
Or D: Greet is a DeLong lobbyist appologist employed by a Councilman wannabe Congressman to promote DeLong and cloud every instance of DeLong's continual bad judgement.
John B. Greet November 04, 2012 at 09:31 PM
Nice try, Ruehle. I've made it clear that I do not believe that DeLong has been our best 3rd District Councilman but that neither do I believe he has been our worst. Neither DeLong nor his campaign employ me in any capacity. Just like you and so many others, here, I am simply expressing my personal political views and calling things as I see them. You seem to take exception to that. Sad. But do keep constructing your various false narratives if that's what gives you pleasure.

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