New Details in LBPD Shooting of Man Wielding Knives

Long Beach Police: death of 20-year-old came after he allegedly threatened stepmom, said he wanted to be killed by officers then threw knives at them.

A Long Beach police officer fatally shot knife-wielding 20-year-old David Jordan after his stepmother called 9-1-1 to report he'd threatened her, wanted officers to kill him then lunged at an officer at the front door, the department said.

Officers arriving to the house in the 1900 block of East Hardwick Street about 1:45 p.m. Tuesday approached the front door to try evacuating the stepmother and another female inside, "concerned that the residents could become hostages or injured by the suspect," stated a news release by Long Beach Police Department spokeswoman Nancy Pratt. It continues:

"Through the preliminary investigation, detectives have learned that the department’s Communications Center received a 9-1-1 call from a woman at the residence.  The caller indicated that her 20-year-old step-son, identified as David Jordan, was inside the house, armed with a knife, threatening her, and yelling that he wanted the police to kill him.

"Officers arrived at the location and approached the residence to make contact.  Concerned the residents could become hostages or injured by the suspect, they attempted to evacuate the two females inside the residence.  While the officers were at the front door trying to get the residents out, one of them made contact with Suspect Jordan, ordering him to put the knife down.

"The suspect lunged towards one of the officers with the knife, causing the officer to discharge his weapon.  At the same time, the suspect threw the knife at the officer. The suspect then armed himself with a second knife, again moved towards the officer in a threatening manner, causing the officer to discharge his weapon a second time," the news release states.

Officers immediately performed CPR on Jordan but he did not survive.

No officers were injured in the incident, the department said.

Read the full news release here.

Read Patch's prior story here.

Questions Patch is hoping the police department can address Thursday:

1. If the subject has already been identified by the caller and relative as wanting to be killed by cops, in other words suicidal and potentially unstable, why then would an officer not call into the home to the stepmother, or have the dispatcher instruct them to get out of the house, rather than risk a potential confrontation?
2. How many officers responded to the scene and how many officers went to the door where the officer(s) attempted to make contact?
3. What time span did the incident occur in? How much time elapsed between the time officers arrived and the time the subject was fatally shot?
4. Did more than one officer discharge a weapon?
5. What is the protocol for a) approaching a suicidal subject with a weapon and is the ideal to hang back for crisis intervention/mental health teams to arrive?
6. How far were the officers/officer from the subject when he was shot?
7. Details on the knife?
8. Any further personal details relevant on Jordan?

The Los Angeles District Attorney's Office will investigate the case, as is the protocol for officer-involved shootings, as will the department itself.

Anyone who may have information relating to the shooting is asked to contact Long Beach Police Homicide Detectives Terri Hubert and Mark Bigel at (562) 570-7244.  Anonymous tips can be submitted via text or web by visiting www.tipsoft.com.

John B. Greet September 22, 2012 at 02:49 PM
Who to petition for such an initiative? There is no current national standard for the training of State or local police officers on *any* topic. There *is* a "National Academy" for police executives at Quantico, VA, but even though appointment is seen as a resume enhancer and completion is seen as an important professional accomplishment, there is no requirement that any State send any police executive to the program. http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/training/national-academy#content All States adopt their own standards of training for the police officers they certify and California already has some of the highest standards for peace officer training in the nation. Perhaps the best way to accomplish what you seek on a national scale would be to create a national civil police force and require all police officers in the nation to become federal cops. I would hope that you would agree that expanding our federal government -and its commensurate cost and authority- by some 800,000 police employees might not be the best way to go. Best, I think, to just focus on the State, and to insert the enhancements you seek into the required training for every peace officer in California. I would strongly support such a proposal. The Commision on Peace Officer Standards of Training (POST) sets such standards in CA. The Governor appoints these Commissioners and the Senate approves their appointment. http://www.post.ca.gov/ LBPD's Chief McDonnell is the current Vice Chairman.
Watts September 22, 2012 at 10:15 PM
My personal experiences with CA cops: 1990 - Just moved to CA and was walking down the street to get a hamburger. A cop car came at me from across the street with lights on and suddenly one is also pulling up right behind me and then a third. Guns pulled, they had me face down on the sidewalk. Apparently, I resembled somebody who had been creeping around a school or maybe something worse (I never found out what it really was). They bully questioned me about why I was in CA, with a CT license and all sorts of other BS questions, for about an hour, while all my new neighbors watched. They left me, stating in a threatening way that they now had all my info and would be watching me. I never heard anything again and for years had no idea of cops were watching me or not or if they ever caught whoever it was that they were looking for. You can imagine what it was like for me in that neighborhood after such an event happening with the new guy in the neighborhood, right there on the street. 1993 - Got pulled over in SF by a cop having a bad day. He ended up pulling me from the car, pushing me around, searching me and finally gave me a ticket for impeding the flow of traffic (which I was not and contested it and won).
Watts September 22, 2012 at 10:15 PM
1998 - In HB, I used to drive home from work at lunch every day, as I was starting my own business while holding another job. I was driving back to work and right in front of my work I was again pulled over and a second cop car came from the other direction. They asked to search me, then asked me to get down on the ground (again; face down and directly in front of the giant office windows where my co-workers had gathered to watch what was going on). They asked to search my car and I had nothing to hide, so I let them. They then stood me up and made up 4 false traffic violations and then they explained that those 4 violations would be enough for me to loose my license. So they were going to "do me a favor" and just say that I ran a stop sign and that I should be happy. It sounded like a threat that if they could pull me over and make all of these false accusations, that if I opened my mouth up about this, that somebody would be back to trump up some other stop that would loose me my license. I have no idea what that stop was for, except that I must have again looked like somebody else and when they realized that they had the wrong guy, they wanted to intimidate me into not making any trouble for them. Again, imagine what walking into work was like after half the office had seen me on the ground with cops going through my car.
Watts September 22, 2012 at 10:16 PM
After that, I had probably eventually reached the age that I didn't fit "the profile" as often to have to deal with such harassment. But with age and growth pf personal assets and businesses being the target of crime, I have at least half a dozen stories (both personal and for my business) of needing cops where they have failed in every single instance. So if these are the resulting police from such supposedly "highest standards," then in my humble opinion, those standards need to be quite a bit higher.
John B. Greet September 22, 2012 at 11:09 PM
Thanks for the stories, Watts. Of course we only have your word that each of these instances occurred precisely as you claim. Still, even if they did, even the best peace officer training standards will not entirely eradicate poor police work or officer misconduct. I think you might find, though, that if we compare apples to apples with other like-sized (populated) States, California fares very well when it comes to overall police competence and professionalism. You obviously disagree and you are entitled to do so.


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